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. >> woodruff: this turned out to be a long day of waiting for final action on the "fiscal cliff" bill that cleared the senate early today. in the house, the measure ran into republican demands for more spending cuts, and its prospects for passage there dimmed. congress began the new year having missed its deadline to keep tax cuts from rising back to 1990's levels for most americans. and to prevent across-the-board spending cuts. instead, house republicans and democrats spent much of the day mulling a bill that cleared the senate shortly before 2:00 a.m. >> the yeah's are 89. the nays are 8. 60-vote threshold having been achieved the bill as amended is passed. >> woodruff: the senate bill makes permanent the bush era tax cuts for 99% of families, those with incomes under $450,000 a year. anything over that amount would be taxed at a rate of 39.6% up from the current 35. the agreement would raise the estate tax on large estates to 40%. but the payroll tax cut of the last two years would expire. the bill also extends unemployment benefits for a year and it stops a cut in medicare paymen
. >> woodruff: this turned out to be a long day of waiting for final action on the "fiscal cliff" bill that cleared the senate early today. in the house, the measure ran into republican demands for more spending cuts, and its prospects for passage there dimmed. congress began the new year having missed its deadline to keep tax cuts from rising back to 1990's levels for most americans. and to prevent across-the-board spending cuts. instead, house republicans and democrats spent...
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now it is up to the house to stop the fiscal cliff. that's $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. at this hour, though, a vote by the house is not yet scheduled. a multiple representative took to the store today floor today vote would be no. >> i wish i could say this was a proud moment, a moment in which we started the year off right, in which the first of january was the first of great many good things. it isn't. we're kicking the can down the road. and worse than that, when faced with a mountain of debt that we were heading for, like an airplane, did we climb over it? no. what we're going to do in the present plan is put nearly another trillion dollars worth of debt on the american people. >> well, joining us now from capitol hill, representative peter welsh, democrat of vermont. we see some democrats moving to the podium. they are also scheduled to speak. congressman welsh, we don't want to interrupt you. so nancy pelosi stepping to the podium. let's take a quick listen. >> well, we just finished a standing room onl
now it is up to the house to stop the fiscal cliff. that's $600 billion of automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. at this hour, though, a vote by the house is not yet scheduled. a multiple representative took to the store today floor today vote would be no. >> i wish i could say this was a proud moment, a moment in which we started the year off right, in which the first of january was the first of great many good things. it isn't. we're kicking the can down the road. and worse than that,...
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in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the new year, the senate was out working late and long after the champagne toast, they passed a deal on the fiscal cliff. now it's up to the house to pass it. the house gets back to work in about 30 minutes from now. house republicans are going to meet to decide what the next step is. vote, no e vote, change things? so while we have heard the reactions from some lawmakers on that senate deal, americans who are a bit groggy from last night, are waking up to the news and having weighing in. alison kosik has been out sampling some of that opinion. what are people saying? >> reporter: you know what's in
in other words, we all tumble off the fiscal cliff together. for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. >>> while most of you were out welcoming in the...
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we shouldn't really call this a fiscal cliff deal. this is just the senate's bill. the senate vote 89-8 in favor the bill. it extends decade old tax cuts on income up to 400,000 for individuals, 450,000 for couples. cuts only 15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion. that is a 41-1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts. so who are the winners and losers? we'll play a little game. i will toss out some names to you, you tell me winner or loser. we'll go down the list. richard, start with you, president obama, john boehner, winner or loser? >> i think both of them are winners for different reasons. the president won. obviously showed winning an election and staying on message is a winning strategy. he got republicans to budge on this decades long notion somehow or other lifting tax rates was going to be ruin news for the economy. i think we'll see that it's not. he got a lot of other provisions clean energy, tuition credits, senator for low income people. unemployment benefits extended that were on the line. i think john boehner is actuall
we shouldn't really call this a fiscal cliff deal. this is just the senate's bill. the senate vote 89-8 in favor the bill. it extends decade old tax cuts on income up to 400,000 for individuals, 450,000 for couples. cuts only 15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion. that is a 41-1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts. so who are the winners and losers? we'll play a little game. i will toss out some names to you, you tell me winner or loser. we'll go down the...
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we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises that it will pass. this morning both parties say more work needs to be done. >> i'm disappointed that we weren't able to make the grand bargain as we have tried to do for so long, but we tried. if we do nothing, the threat of recession is very real. >> we have done some good for the country. we have taken care of the revenue side of this debate. and now it's time to get serious about reducing washington's out of control spending. that's a debate the american people want and it's the debate we'll have next and it's a debate republicans are ready for. >> we're covering all the angl
we begin with this morning's fiscal cliff and the drama that now shifts to the house. overnight the senate overwhelmingly passed a compromised measure. it it delays the spending cuts that could have plunged the nation back into a recession. for most americans, taxes would stay the same r for almost everyone but top earners. but the measure is now up to the house. lawmakers take up the matter in two hours and could vote later today. and republican leaders in the house aren't making any promises...
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senators waiting until after the fiscal cliff deadline passed at midnight before they finally approved an agreement. the deal would raise taxes only on wealthy americans and would put off any spending cuts for two months. the agreement now goes to the house where passage is not certain. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will be spending this holiday in a new york hospital. her third day there after doctors discovered a blood clot near her brain. abc's martha raddatz has the latest on her serious health scare. >> reporter: this morning the normally globe-trotting secretary of state remains in a hospital room. monitoring closely being given blood thinners to break up the clot in her head. family members including daughter chelsea close at her side. a statement from her doctors new year's eve saying the scan revealed a clot in the vein that is situated in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right here ♪ the statement says the secretary did not suffer a stroke or any neurological damage but this is clearly a serious setback. >> the goal there is to try and dissolve
senators waiting until after the fiscal cliff deadline passed at midnight before they finally approved an agreement. the deal would raise taxes only on wealthy americans and would put off any spending cuts for two months. the agreement now goes to the house where passage is not certain. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton will be spending this holiday in a new york hospital. her third day there after doctors discovered a blood clot near her brain. abc's martha raddatz has the latest...
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actually going over the fiscal cliff will help some republicans vote for a measure when maybe before they would have voted against it. some republicans up even though they are not on board, won't vote for this unless they have to. but i think john boehner wants more than 30 republicans to be on board with him. >> no doubt the case. brianna keilar in washington. looking for signs all morning about how this will go down. any smoke rising from the speaker's office, we know are you watching. >> let's dive into the senate deal. what it does on the business side. popular tax breaks extended, including a credit for research, which benefits high-tech companies and appear an investment rightoff that helps manufacturers. the long-term unemployed receives emergency benefits for another year. doctors spared a 27% cut in medicare reimbursements set to take effect in january. the $30 billion cost would be cut by cutting other health care programs. >> and tim huelkamp, you and i got into a little dustup last night. brand new year, 2013. let's start over again. happy new year to you, sir. >> happy n
actually going over the fiscal cliff will help some republicans vote for a measure when maybe before they would have voted against it. some republicans up even though they are not on board, won't vote for this unless they have to. but i think john boehner wants more than 30 republicans to be on board with him. >> no doubt the case. brianna keilar in washington. looking for signs all morning about how this will go down. any smoke rising from the speaker's office, we know are you watching....
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. >>> updating the top stories we've gone over the fiscal cliff, but a senate deal reached overnight may keep tax increases and spending cuts from going into effect. the house votes on this deal later today. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton remains in a new york hospital this morning where she's being treated for a blood clot that was located near her brain. doctors say she's expected to make a full recovery. >> dozens of same-sex couples are tying the knot in maryland as gay marriage becomes legal in the state. a majority of voters approved of same-sex marriage in november. >>> heavy rain, thunderstorms along the gulf coast into the carolinas. very cold in the midwest and a chilly start to the rose parade out there in pasadena. >>> and finally this half hour call it rent a bunch of friends. you can have them at your beck and call laughing, making a scene, all that good stuff. >> all of that for a price, of course. abc's nick watt tried out the lifestyle. >> reporter: that's what i thought l.a. was all about. it's why i moved here. but this is my reality. i wanted to share "ent
. >>> updating the top stories we've gone over the fiscal cliff, but a senate deal reached overnight may keep tax increases and spending cuts from going into effect. the house votes on this deal later today. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton remains in a new york hospital this morning where she's being treated for a blood clot that was located near her brain. doctors say she's expected to make a full recovery. >> dozens of same-sex couples are tying the knot in...
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technically we did go over the fiscal cliff at midnight this morning. but that is likely to be temporary if the house votes in favor of that bill later today. the senate as you mentioned voted overwhelmingly around 2:00 in the morning by a vote of 89-8. almost all democrats and republicans voting yes on a deal that would make permanent the bush era tax cuts for people earning up to $400,000 a year and couples earning up to $450,000 a year. this was a deal that was worked out by vice president biden and senate leaders. the house speaker hasn't said that the house will definitely vote in favor of it today, but democrats at least are saying they expect almost all of their members to vote yes. terrell? >> nancy cordes on capitol hill, nancy, thank you so much. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton spent new year's eve in the hospital being treated for a blood clot in her skull. margaret brennan is outside new york-presbyterian hospital. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. secretary clinton is still being treated for that blood clot tha
technically we did go over the fiscal cliff at midnight this morning. but that is likely to be temporary if the house votes in favor of that bill later today. the senate as you mentioned voted overwhelmingly around 2:00 in the morning by a vote of 89-8. almost all democrats and republicans voting yes on a deal that would make permanent the bush era tax cuts for people earning up to $400,000 a year and couples earning up to $450,000 a year. this was a deal that was worked out by vice president...
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legislation to avert the fiscal cliff tax increases and spending cuts increases is headed to the house. the house will be back in session this afternoon. house speaker john boehner hasn't endorsed the deal but has promised to vote on it or a republican alternative right away. >>> the type of blood clot detected in secretary of state hillary clinton is relatively uncommon, but can occur after an injury like the fall and concussion she suffered in september. doctors are treating mrs. clinton with blood thinners and are confident she'll make a full recovery. >>> midnight fire works show was canceled after a fight at a restaurant ended with two people fatally shot and three injured. the new year was greeted with con feti and fireworks for the most part, champagne, eiffel tower in paris. crowds were smaller than last year. hong kong held its biggest ever celebration, including a massive fire works display that cost $1.6 million. no >>> lake effect snow is expected throughout wisconsin and michigan and western new york. snow showers are possible in the northern plains, partly cloudy conditio
legislation to avert the fiscal cliff tax increases and spending cuts increases is headed to the house. the house will be back in session this afternoon. house speaker john boehner hasn't endorsed the deal but has promised to vote on it or a republican alternative right away. >>> the type of blood clot detected in secretary of state hillary clinton is relatively uncommon, but can occur after an injury like the fall and concussion she suffered in september. doctors are treating mrs....
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and they tried to explain that away and say this is the fiscal cliff. we have a fiscal grand canyon to deal with. and the president won round one and we'll sock it to him in round two, i don't know about that, two months, three months, we'll wait for round three and really get him. i mean, at one point this business of living to fight another day. you have to dig in your heels, by golly, this is important to the people of my country. >> that's not the most compromising view. but i appreciate your principles, sir. phil gingrey from the 11th in georgia. good to see you, happy new year. >> thank you so much. happy new year. >> he has not made up his mind yet. doesn't sound like a yes vote. >> based on data laid out there, doesn't sound like it. >> fairly safe to say. despite down to the wire fiscal cliff negotiations, somehow americans across the country managed to celebrate the arrival of the new year in spectacular style. the fiscal cliff not weighing them down at all. an estimated crowd of 1 million jammed into times square to watch the traditional ball
and they tried to explain that away and say this is the fiscal cliff. we have a fiscal grand canyon to deal with. and the president won round one and we'll sock it to him in round two, i don't know about that, two months, three months, we'll wait for round three and really get him. i mean, at one point this business of living to fight another day. you have to dig in your heels, by golly, this is important to the people of my country. >> that's not the most compromising view. but i...
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the senate's fiscal cliff deal would kick that can down about two months to march. a lot of federal agencies trying to figure out what's that going to mean down the road? and then there's the continuing budget resolution which uses short-term band aids. the current resolution expires towards the end of march. so, before you think that we've averted any kind of fiscal cliff, we're actually hanging off of it by our fingernails waiting for the house to fix it and you've got all these other deadlines. >> it's no joke. we have gone to the brink on each one of those three things. >> that's the way we do it now. we wait until the absolute last minute to get things done. >> let me give you the glass half full here. we are in -- >> half full of champagne. >> we're in an environment of risk, we're not making it worse type environment. we're doing things to embrace the deficit and the debt. slowly but we're doing it. >> the problem not having a budget really is fundamentally a problem. the government does all sorts of things, passes all sorts of resolutions whether you like th
the senate's fiscal cliff deal would kick that can down about two months to march. a lot of federal agencies trying to figure out what's that going to mean down the road? and then there's the continuing budget resolution which uses short-term band aids. the current resolution expires towards the end of march. so, before you think that we've averted any kind of fiscal cliff, we're actually hanging off of it by our fingernails waiting for the house to fix it and you've got all these other...
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there is a tentative agreement to block fiscal cliff across-the-board tax increases and sweeping spenning cuts that were due to take effect at midnight. though the midnight deadline was brea final agreement. there could be a senate vote in a matter of hours on the proposed deal. and the house will reconvene less than 12 hours from now. the temporary agreement keeps income tax rates steady for most americans, limiting tax hikes to people making more than $450,000. and extends jobless benefits for 2 million unemployed. and puts off automatic spending cuts on the pentagon and domestic programs for two months. now back to "the five" new year's eve special. for all of your headlines, go to our web site at foxnews.com. five." ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> juan: getting redty to party. the last segment we took a look at the serious moments on "the five" this year. now let's get to the good stuff. roll the tape. ♪ notice >> are we non- >> bob. >> sorry. ♪ ♪ notice ♪ ♪ >> hostess brand maker of twinkies. [ laughter ] >> lockness monster was a hoax. >> what? that is a hoax? it's not real? >> oh, man
there is a tentative agreement to block fiscal cliff across-the-board tax increases and sweeping spenning cuts that were due to take effect at midnight. though the midnight deadline was brea final agreement. there could be a senate vote in a matter of hours on the proposed deal. and the house will reconvene less than 12 hours from now. the temporary agreement keeps income tax rates steady for most americans, limiting tax hikes to people making more than $450,000. and extends jobless benefits...
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that means they are still at work, the senate possibly coming in to vote on a deal with the fiscal cliff tonight. although the deadline has passed, congress can still deal with the impact of spending cuts and tax increases that were set to go into effect on january 1. congressional leaders say they want to send legislation to president obama within a day or two, so consumers should not notice any impact. again, that from the associated press. and now, we talk to a reporter on capitol hill about the actions so far by senate democrats in reaching an agreement. todd is from the takeaway. hours before the deadline, democrats announced a scaled- down version to avoid the so- called fiscal cliff. what are some of the key items in the deal? >> the most important items people will be paying attention to are the income tax rates. you are looking at a tax increase on individuals making more than $400,000 and individuals and families making more than $450,000. president obama campaigned on 250 thousand dollars, and they are redefining what is middle class. now, someone who makes $300,000, that pers
that means they are still at work, the senate possibly coming in to vote on a deal with the fiscal cliff tonight. although the deadline has passed, congress can still deal with the impact of spending cuts and tax increases that were set to go into effect on january 1. congressional leaders say they want to send legislation to president obama within a day or two, so consumers should not notice any impact. again, that from the associated press. and now, we talk to a reporter on capitol hill about...
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. >>> right off the top, breaking news from capitol hill, just two hours from the fiscal cliff deadline the white house has reached adeal with congressional republicans. which thanks for joining us tonight. i'm maureen umeh. the deal would delay harsh spending cut for two months, but it appears the house will not vote before tonight's midnight deadline. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place. we can do this. we must do this. >> reporter: though it is down to the wire. >> it's december the 31st! january 1st is tomorrow, 2013, taxes go up. >> reporter: a frustrated senator john kuhn said the senate should have acted months ago to keep the economy from going off the fiscal cliff. >> i just find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz, you know, i really hope we can get something done here in the last day as we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> reporter: the two people were senate republican le
. >>> right off the top, breaking news from capitol hill, just two hours from the fiscal cliff deadline the white house has reached adeal with congressional republicans. which thanks for joining us tonight. i'm maureen umeh. the deal would delay harsh spending cut for two months, but it appears the house will not vote before tonight's midnight deadline. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the...
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goes on to tweet republican's fiscal cliff double think fiscal crisis demands cuts in service, no investment in jobs but allows more tax cuts for richest americans. if and when this comes up for votes in the house and senate, it's unclear how many democrats especially on the left will support this, or buck the president, basically. bret? >> bret: ed henry live in the white house. thank you. stocks started the week up. possibly encouraged early in the day about talk of this possible deal. the dow finished ahead 166. the s&p 500 was up 24. the nasdaq gained 59 another deal not fiscal cliff related. the senate home security committee blasted the state department for failures leading to the deadly september 11th attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, libya. this comes on the heels of another scathing report by an independent state department accountability review board that we have covered many times. chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge has the latest senate report sites the white house for president obama inconsistent statements whether the benghazi assault was terrorist attack
goes on to tweet republican's fiscal cliff double think fiscal crisis demands cuts in service, no investment in jobs but allows more tax cuts for richest americans. if and when this comes up for votes in the house and senate, it's unclear how many democrats especially on the left will support this, or buck the president, basically. bret? >> bret: ed henry live in the white house. thank you. stocks started the week up. possibly encouraged early in the day about talk of this possible deal....
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americans as part of their framework for avoiding the fiscal cliff. but spending cuts still very much up in the air. team fox coverage continues with rich edson on capitol hill. rich, what's the latest on that framework. >> trace, in just a few hours, tax rates across the board are scheduled to increase. this proposal deals with it. this is the framework that senators have been discussing here. families would pay the same income tax rates they do now on the first $450,000 of income amounts of more than that they get a tax increase. one year extension of long-term unemployment benefits. doctors are scheduled to get a significant pay cut. this plan prevents that and on the estate tax, can you palings -- pass on $5 million tax tree anything more the government takes 40%, trace. >> trace: what's the hold-up from lawmakers exactly? >> in some corners, it's the spending cuts dealing with the sequester. those automatic spending cuts that are supposed to hit the economy this year or this upcoming year. there are democrats that have issue. senate democrats hav
americans as part of their framework for avoiding the fiscal cliff. but spending cuts still very much up in the air. team fox coverage continues with rich edson on capitol hill. rich, what's the latest on that framework. >> trace, in just a few hours, tax rates across the board are scheduled to increase. this proposal deals with it. this is the framework that senators have been discussing here. families would pay the same income tax rates they do now on the first $450,000 of income...
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, what they have set up is a series of mini fiscal cliffs, if you will, kate. so every three to six weeks, over the next six months, we could be going through nights like this where we're up against the clock and congress has to act and the president -- they have to figure out how to compromise or watch automatic headaches kick in. >> chuck todd is going -- it's going to be a long night. thanks for being with us on wall street today, this final trading day of the year. investors were hopeful of a deal would be worked out by the time the closing bell rang at 4:00. stocks soared to their highest point today. capping an up year. the dow finished 166 points up, the nasdaq rose 59 points and the s&p 500 was up almost 24 points on the day. for the year, the dow finished with a 7% gain. the nasdaq was up almost 16% this year and the s&p 500 gained more than 13%, a very strong year for stocks. so let's bring in cnbc's senior economics reporter steve liesman. steve, we just said the market was way up today, they thought we would have a deal. now we're headed over the cl
, what they have set up is a series of mini fiscal cliffs, if you will, kate. so every three to six weeks, over the next six months, we could be going through nights like this where we're up against the clock and congress has to act and the president -- they have to figure out how to compromise or watch automatic headaches kick in. >> chuck todd is going -- it's going to be a long night. thanks for being with us on wall street today, this final trading day of the year. investors were...
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mixed with a fairly bad economic impact from the fiscal cliff. kicking some of the sequester down the road would be a good idea but it's the same disagreements keeping us from doing that that has kept us from getting a bigger deal. >> where we are right now and what we know about this, sam, is it clear whether one side gave more than the other? >> you know, it's just the first chapter of a several-chapter book here because now we're going to have to deal with the debt ceiling fight and republicans have been calculating that they want to extract some concessions from the white house on that. that can't be considered separate from what we're talking about today. of course, we have to do the sequestration and what will happen with those cuts. so it's too early to tell who wins, who loses. i'll add to ezra, the big losers i guess are us, and me in particular standing out here in the cold on new year's eve over a manufactured crisis. >> there are a lot of us who did not expect to be here at 5:31 eastern time on new year's eve. we shall say that. let m
mixed with a fairly bad economic impact from the fiscal cliff. kicking some of the sequester down the road would be a good idea but it's the same disagreements keeping us from doing that that has kept us from getting a bigger deal. >> where we are right now and what we know about this, sam, is it clear whether one side gave more than the other? >> you know, it's just the first chapter of a several-chapter book here because now we're going to have to deal with the debt ceiling fight...
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we have the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and again, that remains a problem and any deal that ignores spending is no real solution and just punts and makes it more difficult down the road. >> how do you get leverage negotiating around the debt ceiling, it is the second time in two year we have blown past the ceiling but no one cares? there is no leverage? >>guest: the bad debt deal creates the situation today 17 months ago and we will face that again in a couple of months but i hope, the last thing remembers want to do is have any say on the potential deal. we will hear the details in the next couple of hours and get final details out to us but it looks like three strikes going the wrong direction and that is frankly what most of my constituents feared washington would do, ignore the real problems and say they have solved it and go home for the new year and that, again, that does not solve the spending problem here in our capitol. >> congressman, we appreciate your take. thank you. >> hours to go before the new year and the market could be closed rallying 166 points today but there ar
we have the fiscal cliff and the debt ceiling and again, that remains a problem and any deal that ignores spending is no real solution and just punts and makes it more difficult down the road. >> how do you get leverage negotiating around the debt ceiling, it is the second time in two year we have blown past the ceiling but no one cares? there is no leverage? >>guest: the bad debt deal creates the situation today 17 months ago and we will face that again in a couple of months but i...
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cliff, are you saying you would rather go over the fiscal cliff than vote for tax hikes? do you think it's going to get past the house? >> i don't know if it will pass the house. and the president seems intransigent. he seemed put off on having to be back in washington, d.c. off his hawaiian vacation. but at the end of the day i think there'll be some washington deal that will raise taxes at a level that won't help jobs. the president didn't want to do the spending cuts side and just raise taxes. and that is just a deal. it's not a solution in my book. >> where do woe go from here, mya, to get what you would want as a solution? what next? >> i do think this is a lost opportunity on two fronts. that we're not replacing the fiscal cliff with a big comprehensive debt deal that would actually fix the problem. and it's a lost opportunity that we seem to be back in washington the same old finger pointing and blame game. and right after the election, i really was hopeful that members of congress would be able to come together and work out these hard issues. we're not there yet,
cliff, are you saying you would rather go over the fiscal cliff than vote for tax hikes? do you think it's going to get past the house? >> i don't know if it will pass the house. and the president seems intransigent. he seemed put off on having to be back in washington, d.c. off his hawaiian vacation. but at the end of the day i think there'll be some washington deal that will raise taxes at a level that won't help jobs. the president didn't want to do the spending cuts side and just...
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. >> americans aren't the only ones watching closely for signs of a fiscal cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of it this whether or not this is actually going to happen. why does it make such a big difference? >> reporter: it makes a huge difference because the rest of the globe, particularly say for example the european union and the euro zone is barely growing. it's stagnant and was in recession in '12. it could be in recession in '13. if you lop off any growth from the u.s. economy, that will have a ripple affect across the althouthe atlantic. you will feel the ripples go across the pacific to asia and japan and china and to all those countries and across the atlantic to europe. i was talking a few m
. >> americans aren't the only ones watching closely for signs of a fiscal cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of...
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we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on. the night rolls on in some cases. midnight in the u.s. is the big fiscal cliff deadline. there are two fronts we are watching today. capitol hill and wall street. let's see if there's any movement on capitol hill. stock markets moving up because it's a little erratic. dana bash is watching that live for us. dana, last hour you were saying progress is being made. now you've been hearing rumblings on the opposite from the far left. what are you hearing now? >> very interesting. we have been hearing from both sides of the aisle that part of the big issue has been to get over objections from conservative republican
we'll have more on that and the fiscal cliff negotiations in a minute. >>> first, i want to show you the rest of the world is ringing in the new year. midnight arrived in asia. they are calling it a pyre tech nick musical. they were scheduled to begin an hour before midnight. hong kong on the top ten places to ring in the new year. let's listen. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >>> ring in the new year, good morning 2013. we'll continue to monitor all of these celebrations as the day rolls on....
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we are less than 24 hours away from hitting the so-called fiscal a cliff right now. the house and senate are striking a deal oh avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts. derek ward is live with more on what's happening today. >> the end is near. that's the end of the year, of course. what about the path that ends at the end of the fiscal cliff. senators should be back at it. the house reconvened this morning. such new year's eve appearances are on the hill. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and joe biden kept in place to avoid $200 billion in tax increases. broad stroke spending cuts and domestic and defense spending. they would take effect gradually over a period beginning at midnight if the white house and congress can't reconcile their differences. it appeared to have been movement on the cost of living increases for social security recipients. opposition to the white house's proposed rate of increase was dropped but the common ground is even shaky. the fierce disagreement over whether the bush era tax cut with the top income earners should be allowed to exp
we are less than 24 hours away from hitting the so-called fiscal a cliff right now. the house and senate are striking a deal oh avoid massive tax hikes and spending cuts. derek ward is live with more on what's happening today. >> the end is near. that's the end of the year, of course. what about the path that ends at the end of the fiscal cliff. senators should be back at it. the house reconvened this morning. such new year's eve appearances are on the hill. senate minority leader mitch...
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her& onpanother on the tax cut. >> congress goes back to work trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> how close are we to a deal here? >> we shouldn't be waiting for people to cut deals in back rooms. american people ought to be able to watch the discussion and the debate. >> reporter: a connecticut lawyer is getting heavy criticism because he wants to sue the state over the newtown shooting. >> hello. we didn't do enough. this never should have happened. >>> colts' head coach makes it back to the sidelines three months after being diagnosed with cancer. >> the minute you get the diagnosis, you know, it's like getting hit across the head with a baseball bat. >>> kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting their first child. >> a little shocked. a little surprised. >> if there's no agreement by cliff, economists predict america will go back into a >> we don't want a howard dean sc reamscre. am. >> bungee jumping. >> we might need it. i might then and i might now. >>> i'm norah o'donnell with anthony mason. ch arlichare anlie d gaand yle gaylare e aroff.e off. o'donnell with anthony mason.
her& onpanother on the tax cut. >> congress goes back to work trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> how close are we to a deal here? >> we shouldn't be waiting for people to cut deals in back rooms. american people ought to be able to watch the discussion and the debate. >> reporter: a connecticut lawyer is getting heavy criticism because he wants to sue the state over the newtown shooting. >> hello. we didn't do enough. this never should have happened....
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defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> they say the biggest priority is making sure we deal with the debt in a serious way. the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest, or frankly, the courage to close the deal. >> the deadline to get a deal done, steadily getting closer and closer. the defense industry wi
defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader...
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do we balance the budget, make cuts on, you know, by cutting social programs for the poor? do it we do it by keeping tax rates low for the rich? and ultimately we have to decide as a community who has to foot the bill to get us back on solid financial ground. and so there's a lot of religious groups have said, "yes, we need to do something about our fiscal mess, but we cannot do it in an immoral way and we cannot do it in a way that punishes the people who can least afford it, and rewards the people who can." >> one of the things that's gonna be coming up is the realization more and more of what's in the obama healthcare plan as things begin to kick in. who wants to pick up on that, on the requirement that, for instance, that groups offer contraceptive coverage? >> well, that's gonna be very controversial and that's gonna come up again very early in this year because the mandate that came down from the obama administration that employers cover contraceptive services free of charge and that includes many faith-based employers, and so you had this coalition of catholic church
do we balance the budget, make cuts on, you know, by cutting social programs for the poor? do it we do it by keeping tax rates low for the rich? and ultimately we have to decide as a community who has to foot the bill to get us back on solid financial ground. and so there's a lot of religious groups have said, "yes, we need to do something about our fiscal mess, but we cannot do it in an immoral way and we cannot do it in a way that punishes the people who can least afford it, and rewards...
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this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been sidestepped. republicans reported dropping their demand to slash social security cost of living increases, the chain cpi that had been briefly on the table. what are the chances we'll get the deal done today? let's listen to republican congressman jason chaffetz earlier on "starting point." >> the united states senate hasn't passed a budge net four years. they have not brought up a single thing for vote on this particular bill. come on, the senate has got to do their job. that's how it works around here. >> more of the same old blame game. senator
this is the final day of the fiscal cliff countdown. the possibility of tax hikes, spending cuts, and a recession all looming at midnight. democrats and republicans turning to their so-called closers to cut a compromise deal. vice president joe biden, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell working behind closed doors, two men who have worked together for 20 years. the ho use and senate back in session in just a few hours. we're not seeing much progress. one significant stumbling block has been...
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there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for up to 26 weeks, a drastic reduction from the 73 weeks available to some out-of-work americans. i want to go to sam stein, but first, dr. sachs, if we go over the cliff, it is the poor americans who will be hit the hardest, correct? >> well, there are parts of that where the poor will be hit the hardest. but if we make a deal right now of the kind that's being talked about, it's going to gut the federal budget for a decade to come. so we're on the brink either of these difficulties right now, which are real, or making terrible decisions that are going to lock us into a situation that we absolutely
there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for...
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we have hours go before the fiscal cliff deadline when dramatic increases and spending cuts kick in. congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all household income over $250,000 a year. republicans have come way down from speaker boehner's insistence that that limit be set at a million dollars. and so if there's a deal today, and that's a big "if," you can expect it would be set around $400,000, $500,000, $600,000 a year, so certainly 90, 95% of americans would be keeping their tax cut. one of the biggest sticking points for the republicans right now appears that this deal doesn't include significant spending cuts. in fact, it contain as lot of new spending and so that is one major issue that's going to have to be ironed out. and if they don't g
we have hours go before the fiscal cliff deadline when dramatic increases and spending cuts kick in. congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all...
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the fiscal cliff deadline is looming. congress house and have a few hours left to reach a to stop potentially devastating tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect. we will have an in-depth report few moments.just a and now a check on traffic. 118 in germantown, it looks like this all morning. no delays southbound. l head onto a map. we had an ongoing cleanup near the air force base. the lanes have been reopened. everything is looking pretty good. we will head to springfield. traffic moving smoothly north. here is a look at the weather. >> a little bit on the cool side. need playersy today. cold is here. the 21 in manassas, 29 degrees in washington d.c.. if the clouds are filtering in. they will thicken up throughout the day. average between 42 and 46. >> thank you. l have another local news coming up at 8:56 on this new year's eve morning. [ cheers and applause ] >>> all right. we have great crowd outside counting down to the new year. the party is already starting in here. >> a little bit. >> ron claiborne, dan abr
the fiscal cliff deadline is looming. congress house and have a few hours left to reach a to stop potentially devastating tax hikes and spending cuts from taking effect. we will have an in-depth report few moments.just a and now a check on traffic. 118 in germantown, it looks like this all morning. no delays southbound. l head onto a map. we had an ongoing cleanup near the air force base. the lanes have been reopened. everything is looking pretty good. we will head to springfield. traffic...
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that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is g
that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some...
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but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much about what you're saying now is a small deal doesn't solve anything except the immediate cliff problem and that's not the only problem we have. it's actually relatively minor, i agree with you. but if we engage in $500 billion fiscal contraction next year i think we're going to have a recession. as a guy who pays attention to macro, how does that help anybody? >> well, look, i actually -- one of the reasons i said, and it was a provocation of saying, the fiscal cliff, after the election, my view of where this was going was exactly where we are this morning. which is probably why yo
but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much...
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he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to happen now. >> dave: he also said republicans should lead on immigration, which i thought was interesting. that also made my eyes go up. >> clayton: he said they're going to continue to lose election after election if they continue to do what they did as it relates to immigration reform. the senate this morning, look at the live look, capitol hill and the white house. the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. this morning. the house is getting together around 9:00 a.m. this morning. again, wendell goler reporting they've been hashing out deals throughout the night. >> dave: if you want good information as it happe
he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to...
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still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off. >>> millions of americans will countdown to a fiscal cliff. a development that could send the nation back to recession. yesterday, the two parties turned to their respective closers, vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a back door deal done. the republican is not giving up. >> i'm interested in getting a result here. willing to work with whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. >> all right according to the president, there has always been and still is one big sticking point. raising
still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off....
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cliff is just a minor blip with you in the long run they actually won a large chunk of what they've been after? >> we're going to have to see what is the impact in the the days ahead. can the republicans somehow turn that around? they certainly, inside the white house believe just the opposite because they believe that john boehner was sort of out maneuvered here, he had been pressing the president, pressing the president for some of his issues and what boehner may have forgotten is at the end of the day if there's no action by the congress, all of the bush tax rates are expiring, so the president is going to get what he's wanted in this debate all along, which is that taxes are going up on the rich and-- >> the president's outmaneuvered the republicans from the very beginning on this. >> ed doesn't have to answer that question. >> and kimberly, we're going to give you the last question, before we go to mike emanuel. >> i have a civilized question for mr. henry. >> and civilized-- >> my goodness, bob. >> it sounds worse than the negotiations on the hill. >> it's worse, thank goodnes
cliff is just a minor blip with you in the long run they actually won a large chunk of what they've been after? >> we're going to have to see what is the impact in the the days ahead. can the republicans somehow turn that around? they certainly, inside the white house believe just the opposite because they believe that john boehner was sort of out maneuvered here, he had been pressing the president, pressing the president for some of his issues and what boehner may have forgotten is at...
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. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i just asked a question. it takes a long time to pack a bowling ball. the last guy pitched more ball packers. but you... you consulted ups. you found a better way. that's logistics. that's margin. find out what else ups knows. i'll do that. you're on a roll. that's funny. i wasn't being funny, bob. i know. ...but he'd wait for her forever, for any reason, and would always be there with the biggest welcome home. for a love this strong, dawn only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein. ...to help keep rocky's
. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scandal. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? well, if it isn't mr. margin. mr. margin? don't be modest, bob. you found a better way to pack a bowling ball. that was ups. and who called ups? you did, bob. i...
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the spending cuts and tax hikes are expected to take effect. >> the night before the fiscal cliff. the senate gave up until tomorrow. >> there is still time to reach an agreement. >> they dropped the demand to cut social security. >> i am optimistic we can live move legislation and get this averted before tomorrow. >> the taxes will go up on most americans. huge cuts kick in. >> i think it is obvious president obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> president obama blamed republicans. >> they say the biggest priority is making sure they deal with the deficit in a significant way. they are behaving in a way that they're only priority is that the tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. blacks mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. -- >> mitch mcconnell is vowing to find out. >> can the senate veteran help congress tumble to a deal on the last day? >> if we do go off the fiscal cliff, congress would be more likely to make a deal. members could claim they are cutting taxes. >> thank you. if america does fall off the fiscal cliff on the first of the year, maryland
the spending cuts and tax hikes are expected to take effect. >> the night before the fiscal cliff. the senate gave up until tomorrow. >> there is still time to reach an agreement. >> they dropped the demand to cut social security. >> i am optimistic we can live move legislation and get this averted before tomorrow. >> the taxes will go up on most americans. huge cuts kick in. >> i think it is obvious president obama wants us to go over the fiscal cliff....
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before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most americans. huge defense cuts kick in, which some republicans claim barack obama favors. >> it's obvious the president wants us to go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: on "meet the press," president obama blamed republicans. >> they say their biggest priority is dealing with the deficit, but the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure taxes don't go up on the rich. >> reporter: the senate minority leader says -- >> i'm willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: enter vice president joe biden, called by mcconnell. can the senate veteran help congress stumble to a deal on the last day? if no
before the fiscal cliff. >> the senate stands in recess. >> reporter: the senate gave until tomorrow. >> there still time left to reach an agreement. >> reporter: house lawmakers headed home, dropping a command to cut social security and hope the senate sends them a deal with minimal tax hikes on the rich. >> i'm still optimistic that we can get this averted before the final hour here tomorrow. >> reporter: when the clock strikes 2013, taxes go up on most...
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. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments until spring for qualified buyers. get the silverado for 0% apr financing for 60 months plus $1,000 holiday bonus cash. plus trade up for an additional $1,000 trade-in allowance. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. to the best vacation sp(all) the gulf! this season, discover aleve. it doesn't matter which of our great states folks visit. mississippi, alabama, louisiana or florida, they're gonna love it. shaul, your alabama hospitality
. >> number one is the fiscal cliff. lawmakers saw it coming, but didn't bother to pay any attention to it, until after the election. had they put politics aside and dealt with it earlier, who knows how strong the u.s. economy would be right now? >>> next, scanl. can you guess who made our list because of bad behavior? 315 horsepower. what's that in reindeer-power? [ laughs ] [ pencil scratches ] [ male announcer ] chevy's giving more. now through january 2nd, no monthly payments...
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what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of congressional failure around this issue. >> well, let's talk about what exactly is likely to happen or is the threat of what will happen. talk about the pentagon. talk about federal workers. talk about obviously the unemploy unemployed whose benefits are going away. >> absolutely. the biggest -- the most dangerous thing, the fiscal cliff is the unemployment insurance. if we go over for a month we can sort of trick everything else. we can -- the irs can do some tricks to make it so you don't feel tax increases quickly. we can do tricks to make it so we don't lay off people at pentagon, we can furlough th
what we're doing here, we are not going to offset the fiscal cliff, just doing the bush tax cuts. we'll only take away about 11%, 12% of total economic impact of the so-called fiscal cliff, all of the policies brought together because you'll be letting the payroll tax expire, the refundable tax cuts expire, and the sequester will be doing and we won't be doing much deficit reduction. we'll be increasing the deficit. it is just, i think, hard to step back and take in the totality of...
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i understand even if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, there are already defense cuts that will hurt anyway. >> that's right. those decisions have been made. what's so disappointing about this deal being constructed here, and hopefully there is one, is the fact sequestration is not on the table. that is going to take place anyway. we look at the readiness of our forces and readiness is a word that describes the preparedness to fight effectively and that he is what americans should remember. we look at one, do we have the people, and are they qualified with the appropriate skill sets, enlisted and officer. do we have the repair parts and maintenance hours to fix the equipment that we have and then are we able to train effectively with that with the amount of hours and time needed to do that. all of that would be cut back significantly, so the readiness of this force, its ability to fight is what i'm saying, would go down markedly. and also there's going to be significant morale impact to the force because all of the services on bases would be cut to include repair and maintenance
i understand even if they reach a deal on the fiscal cliff, there are already defense cuts that will hurt anyway. >> that's right. those decisions have been made. what's so disappointing about this deal being constructed here, and hopefully there is one, is the fact sequestration is not on the table. that is going to take place anyway. we look at the readiness of our forces and readiness is a word that describes the preparedness to fight effectively and that he is what americans should...